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Interview with Peter Donaldson
One night after a Salmonpeople performance in the fall of 2005 I came in the backstage door and found Peter still there. Everyone else had gone home. Sitting there among the mirrors of the makeup room we talked until midnight. Peter suggested the idea of bringing Leonardo to the Harlequin season. I thought it was a great idea, so here we are. In preparing our program notes for this production I asked Peter a few questions about his life with Leonardo…

Scot: Why do you think people are so drawn to Leonardo?
Peter Donaldson: “I think people are drawn to the character of Leonardo da Vinci because he reminds us of ourselves, our own capacity for genius, for excellence, for being useful, for being productive. Certainly we are attracted to Leonardo because he had a great mind. Certainly we are a bit in awe of great talent. And so we project the best of what we aspire to onto him.

But I think that people are also drawn to Leonardo because they sense a much more subtle attribute. A great mind, yes, a great talent, to be sure, but most of all, a great curiosity.

I think we see Leonardo as the consummate kindergartner, as all kindergartners are fabulous. Remember being in kindergarten? Totally confident of our new found verbal and motor abilities, totally engrossed in data derived from our five senses, totally in love with the big questions: Why? How? Let me see? In fact no question was too big for us. That’s Leonardo. That’s the charm we see in kindergartners. Fearless curiosity. That’s the yearning we all have to be alive and curious and exploring our world. As adults we sometimes forget this core attribute. Leonardo celebrates it. And in celebrating it he reminds us of what we have always been.

Of course, what’s also fun about this play is letting people see the underbelly of Leonardo; the tinkerer with a workbench in the garage, the wedding planner, the employee. Everybody has to go to work and make a living. This view of Leonardo helps us to relate to him even more.”

Scot: How did all this get started for you?
Peter Donaldson: “I’ve been a theater director and a playwright for many years. This work is about making stories. I have also been a teacher for many years and I have come to learn that real learning has little to do with assigning grades or meeting standards. Learning for me, like all good curricula is about the story architecture we build in our minds and how much interactive meaning it can hold for us, and how we come to apply it in making improvements in the real-time story we are actually living.

But probably the most important foundation for me in this work is the fact that my mother is a librarian. She read to me. I have an architecture in here for stories. My mother has always given books for gifts. One year, I received a big fat biography of Leonardo da Vinci. There it is, I thought, that’s the story I want to live into. And not just Leonardo’s story, but the story of his times. Something tells me we are at a very similar juncture today.”

Scot: So you think the Renaissance has relevance for people living today?
Peter Donaldson: “Something happened back then. Certain circumstances conspired to create the conditions for a tremendous advance in human understanding and capacity. Fascinating parallels exist; similar patterns are at play today. Just take even a cursory glance at the “20 Questions for a New Renaissance” and your mind begins to fire.”

Scot: For example?
Peter Donaldson:
“The question of Guttenberg to Google, for example. Leonardo was born right when Guttenberg and his team invented moveable type and printed material became available to the masses. It was an information revolution and catapulted vast changes in culture, commerce and politics with the net result being a rapid up-tick in collective human maturity. Our teenagers today stand in exactly the same moment. They were born with the internet. Schools have no business teaching facts and information. That’s already out there and everywhere. Schools will need to be teaching discernment, dialogue, teamwork, application, integration, innovation; and this within a value set that places the common good ahead of private profit. My goal with this production and with my annual national tour is to host this kind of discussion in every major city in America.”

Scot: What is your approach to personifying Leonardo on stage?
Peter Donaldson:
“He has to actually be there. The hat goes on, he’s there. Of course it is just theater. Of course we are just pretending. But we are so good at pretending together, me, the production team, the box office, the house manager, the ushers, the audience, and we want so much to believe in these compelling stories of people and events. This is how we learn, through stories. That’s why we buy tickets to see great theater. I like Harlequins’ motto by the way; Real. Live. Theater.”

Scot: From your perspective what do you think is Leonardo’s greatest achievement?
Peter Donaldson:
“Many will think of a few of his more iconic paintings, the Mona Lisa, The Last Supper. Some will think of his inventions. I think, frankly, it was his methodology that stands out as his greatest achievement. I admire his step by step dissection and analysis of every question. Then there’s that irrepressible curiosity that enables him to ask those penetrating questions in the first place. So perhaps it is the combination, the dynamic integration of curiosity and methodology. These are tools anyone can access, anyone can apply.

Scot: Is there a da Vinci code?
Oh please! He was the great decoder. He spent all of his energy trying to decode the secrets of Nature not encode them. As for religion, he never speaks of attending mass or having church being a regular part of his rhythm, and yet one gets the impression that, in his world, where “Nature is your greatest teacher,” he was perhaps never not in church.

Hope you join us at the show and stay after for more conversations with Peter.
- Scot Whitney

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